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andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2008-12-11 03:30 pm
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[identity profile] call-waiting.livejournal.com 2008-12-11 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
The fathers of the military have nothing to do with the generation following the war. All that matters to a generation is the genetics of its direct progenitors.

The above statement, while true, can be reduced to "fathers with more boys in the war stand a greater chance of having a boy survive the war". It's trivially true, and doesn't explain anything at all.

In order to explain the post-war boom in baby boys using the data they claim to have, their data would suggest that soldiers with higher numbers of brothers are more likely to have survived the war than those with lower numbers, or with more sisters. Now you could draw all sorts of interesting conclusions from that and speculate on explanations, such as: "kids with lots of brothers are better prepared for war because they'll have been playing at soldiers since they were wee", but the data doesn't do anything more than -suggest- that sort of thing. The data is certainly no "explanation".

[identity profile] call-waiting.livejournal.com 2008-12-11 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Now that never occurred to me. The idea that the draft would be anything other than fair, with any eligible individual having an equal chance of being drafted, seems morally repugnant to me.

[identity profile] randomchris.livejournal.com 2008-12-11 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm inclined to agree with your analysis of the stats on the face of it, but I think you may be forgetting the "Saving Private Ryan" factor - if somebody dies in the war and they have a brother who is still out there, they may be moved to a safer position; at the very least, they'll get a little bit of leave to attend the funeral, thus increasing their chances of survival at least a small amount.

However, a more useful point is possibly that somebody with more sons would have a higher chance of at least one of them being too young / too infirm / too short-sighted to fight (too young being the most likely), and thus a better chance of passing on their genes.

[identity profile] randomchris.livejournal.com 2008-12-11 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I can sort of see what he means with the proportions; if, say, there are odds of 50% of returning alive, then if you've got two sons at war, there's a 75% chance that one or both will return alive (87.5% for three, etc.)