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andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2008-09-11 01:16 pm

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From the observation last night in conversation with Lilian that people complain about speed cameras all the time, but you rarely hear anyone saying that the actual limit should be raised.

Note for for'n types - speeds are in MPH.

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[personal profile] drplokta 2008-09-11 12:46 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a problem with average speed cameras on roads other than motorways, which is that to prove an offence was committed, you don't just have to prove that the vehicle passed point X at time A and point Y at time B, but also that the entire journey between X and Y happened on the public roads, and that the route on which you base the average speed is the shortest route between X and Y. These are difficult things to prove for most roads.

[identity profile] robhu.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 12:49 pm (UTC)(link)
What about having a 'spy in your car' that is a GPS system that records your location. Rather than in the nightmare scenario where this info is wirelessly transmitted to MI5/6 all the time, it could only be required to be produced (needing to be done physically) at the time an offense was suspected of being committed?

[identity profile] red-phil.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 01:27 pm (UTC)(link)
how big is this unit?
where on my motorbike do I put it?
who pays for it?

[identity profile] robhu.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 01:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure how big it'd need to be, probably not very big at all. I'm not thinking big Tom Tom like device with a huge LCD screen, I'm talking a few chips (for the GPS / CPU / flash) and a built in aerial. We're talking watch size here, nothing bigger.

Perhaps the best thing to do would be to introduce it as a phased in thing, where all new vehicles have to have such a device equipped. Or alternatively you bit the bullet and say that everyone has to have such a device installed by 20XX.

One way or another we pay for it. That's how all such things work.

[identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I believe Norwich Union were trialling a GPS tracker to offer low-mileage drivers a lower insurance rate. I rememeber thinking that I'd never take that offer since it would mean my speed/movements could also be recorded.

[identity profile] marrog.livejournal.com 2008-09-11 01:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I wouldn't propose them anywhere other than on long stretches of motorway. And an appeal system is already in place for just such misunderstandings if they happened even then.