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andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2006-05-11 06:16 pm

On getting a sense of priorities

In the last ten years, smoking has killed 4,000,000 Americans. Traffic has killed 400,000. Terrorism has killed 4,000.

(Can't remember where I stole this from)

[identity profile] rosamicula.livejournal.com 2006-05-11 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah but the difference is surely that dying form smoking is a consequence of a long-term lifestyle choice, dying in an RTA is purely accidental, but death from a brainwashed fuckwit flying a plane into a building is entirely premeditated and designed to cause 'terror' and knock out a key financial nerve centre.

The orchestrators of those attacks knew exactly how the Bush administration would react to them; they got the Jihad they wanted. Or perhaps not; the refusal to execute Moussai (sp?) will at least ensure he remains more of a moron than a martyr.



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[identity profile] dougs.livejournal.com 2006-05-11 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
We need to find something that's killed 40,000.

[identity profile] slammerkinbabe.livejournal.com 2006-05-11 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I find this sort of "perspective" a little troubling, because I think of them as individual lives, not statistics, and 4,000 is a hell of a lot of individual lives. Plus, as mentioned above, smoking is a personal choice undertaken by individuals who have access to information on its dangers, and therefore the harm it causes is to some extent self-inflicted. Now, I understand that that's an oversimplification where addiction is involved. Nevertheless, there is *some* element of personal choice there. When people die from terrorism, it's murder, and a particularly cold-bloodedly premeditated form of murder at that.

At base, human lives are human lives, and I have difficulty taking a statistical perspective on their loss, you know?
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I'm not sure about the 4,000

[identity profile] the-magician.livejournal.com 2006-05-11 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
because, depending on how you look at the causes, you have to include all the American servicemen dead in Iraq and Afghanistan.

And the death of one person is bad.

But everyone dies.

That means God is bad.

So we should ban God.

I could get even more un-PC, but I've had people ranting at me before when I mentioned it, so I won't go through that again uninvited.

So I'll just say 8,000 people a day die of AIDS worldwide.
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[identity profile] autopope.livejournal.com 2006-05-11 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
The objective of the US war on terror (and Blair's follow-on tap dance) is nothing to do with abolishing terrorism, and everything to do with power politics.

If you haven't ever read Orwell's 1984, now would be a good time to start. (NB: I mean, read the book. Don't bother with the films.)

NB: On Microsoft Windows ...

Let us postulate there are 100M Windows desktops in the American workplace. Let us postulate that through crashing, virus infections, having ancient filesystems that need defragmenting, etcetera, each desktop costs one work-hour of maintenance per month. (I've heard support ratios of 40-60 Windows desktops per support worker so this may be an underestimate.) In one month, Windows malfunctions or design flaws therefore cost the US economy 100M working hours. Or 1250 working lifetimes (40 hours/week, 50 weeks/year, 40 years/lifetime).

Ergo: every year, running Windows costs the USA four times as many lifetimes as were taken on 9/11 by a bunch of bampots with box-cutters.

[identity profile] azalemeth.livejournal.com 2006-05-12 06:34 am (UTC)(link)
Don't worry. With the increasing popularity of SUVs, and Bush's foreign policy, the numbers will soon be much more even!

[identity profile] lproven.livejournal.com 2006-05-13 10:01 am (UTC)(link)
Well, it's a start. See, I'd like to see a Jack Womack-style campaign of intensive worldwide advertising, promoting how smoking makes you look cool, sexy and sophisticated and enhances your appeal to the opposite sex. How it makes kids look older, adults look younger and everyone look more like a 1930s movie star.

Couple this with intensive taxation and exemption from free medical treatment for smoking-related diseases.

Bosh, self-administered population growth control! And not only that, smarter people are less likely to be suckered by it! More dumb people die!

[identity profile] stillcarl.livejournal.com 2006-05-14 10:26 am (UTC)(link)
I couldn't resist the comparison...

http://www.google.com/trends?q=terrorism%2Cbritney

I expect the lines to meet about 2020...