andrewducker: (roleplaying HP)
andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2006-04-27 11:24 am

Legal Telemarketers (#17 in a series of things which have really pissed me off)

I'm far too fucking polite with the horrifically amoral scum who phone me up to offer me things I would only want if I was so far down the food chain that pond scum looked like a shining role model to work towards.

In principle I think that no win, no fee legal arrangements are a good thing.  They remove the  inequity which meant that only the rich could afford legal representation, making it easier for those who have been legitimately harmed to obtain some kind of redress through the courts.

What isn't a good thing is legal companies phoning up people at random to ask them if they've had any kind of incident at work ove rthe past three years.  And making it clear that it doesn't have to be anyone's responsibility, but that it could be as simple as a minor brush with another driver, or a slip at work.  And then. when I say that no, I'm fine, offering me a £50 finders fee if I pass them along to anyone else who _has_ had any kind of incident in the last three years.

Offering your services to people in genuine need is one thing, asking people if they have a genuine problem is fine, but these scumbags were clearly looking for the  kind of thing that could be settled out of court for a nice tidy sum, in order to avoid publicity.

Oh, and as I'm registered with the Telephone Preference Service they shouldn't have been phoning me in the first place - if I'd had my brain in gear I'd have written down the name of their company and reported them.  The whole thing makes me feel slightly ill.

[identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com 2006-04-27 12:19 pm (UTC)(link)
In or out, it's still part of the system. There would be no motive(or opportunity) to settle out of court if it were not possible for claimants to bring the case in the first place, and for there to be a resaonable chance of succeeding should it actually get to court.

You need that threat to get an out-of-court settlement.

My own claim (*not* no win, no fee - predates that, but the fees weren't that bad) took 3 years and went right to the courtroom doors (in effect). There is no way they'd have paid anything if I hadn't been able to raise a case.

[identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com 2006-04-27 01:37 pm (UTC)(link)
OK, different threat, but if it wasn't for court you wouldn't need lawyers.

[identity profile] missedith01.livejournal.com 2006-04-27 01:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think that adequately represents the perception of the risks involved.

If one is faced with the choices:

1. Pay £X now, and that's all

2. Pay nothing now, but risk paying £Y later

Then it isn't only the probability of 2 that matters, it's the difference between Y and X. If the difference is large enough then people will choose 1, even if the likelihood of 2 is small.

I'm not saying one doesn't have to have a case, but that it sometimes doesn't have to be a very good case, just a case with a possible (but not necessarily likely) scary outcome for the defendant('s insurers).

[identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com 2006-04-27 01:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Better put than I can some up with at this time of day.

Hedging is always popular.

[identity profile] missedith01.livejournal.com 2006-04-27 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
You mean like .. privet?

[identity profile] missedith01.livejournal.com 2006-04-27 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
True. Except people might also be insured to the amount of X.