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andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2006-02-21 05:30 pm

Playstations and Blu-Ray players

Let's assume that the PS3 will launch for about the same price as the XBox 360 (and anything else would be suicide) at around $450.

And let's also assume that the prices floating around for Blu-Ray players is reasonable accurate and that they'll be starting at $600.

Now, as the PS3 will have a Blu-Ray player built in, who the hell is going to go into competition with Sony by releasing their own player, when they will be beaten so badly on price?

[identity profile] call-waiting.livejournal.com 2006-02-21 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Let's assume that the PS3 will launch for about the same price as the XBox 360 (and anything else would be suicide) at around $450.

The most recent figure I've heard mentioned is round about the $800 mark.

Which is, as you say, suicide.

Except for the corner of the market that's the intersection of "People who want blu-ray players" and "people who want a next gen gaming console". Which, now I think amout it, is probably a fair percentage of those who want a next gen console anyway.

If this trend continues, you'll also be able to drive to work in the PlayStation 4.

[identity profile] johnbobshaun.livejournal.com 2006-02-21 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
When the PS2 came out in 2000 it was pretty much in the same price range as a stand-alone DVD player.

[identity profile] johnbobshaun.livejournal.com 2006-02-21 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Early on you'll have a stage where Sony are losing money hand over fist on each PS3 sold. However (if all goes to plan) they'll be getting Blueray players into a large number of households this way. Which is what they *really* want: I'm assuming that due to licensing they'll be able to recouple some of their losses on sales of BluRay format movies.

The manufacting costs of BluRay players will quickly go down as time goes on, but I'm betting this won't lead to any major price drops in PS3 hardware. I think this is when standalone BluRay players will be able to undercut the PS3 and sell in serious quantities.

[identity profile] sneakingyoda.livejournal.com 2006-02-21 06:47 pm (UTC)(link)
My thought is that people will wish to have two seperate machines. If they want the Ps3 for games, they'll get it- and a good portion of people will also play their movies on it.

I personally- if I had the money- would get a seperate dvd player because of previous history problems the PS systems have had with playing dvd's. With extended Dvd use Ps2's are more likely to have problems than if they were only used for games. (weird isn't it.)

I would be weary of the same problem for Ps3's.

That and when I did play a movie on the Ps2 I didn't like the sound qaulity it produced (movies seemed really muted).

In any sort- don't forget all those non gamer types out there that won't even consider the Ps3 as a alternative for movie viewing. Tons of money to be made still by simply releasing a player of your own.

[identity profile] azalemeth.livejournal.com 2006-02-21 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the honest answer will be either "No one" (thus creating a win for HD-DVD, and, alas, AACS) or, if we're lucky "The consumer", by a price war.

*Looks at usual hollywood related prices and business practices*

Blu-ray players will be $350. Blu-ray disks themselves however, about $50 and "expire" ten weeks after you get them....

[identity profile] robhu.livejournal.com 2006-02-21 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I suspect either the PS3 will be arbitrarily crippled in some way (unlikely) or it will just lack certain 'top end' features.

Those top end features will lead to videophiles adopting the top end players (that cost more than the PS3), everyone else will get a PS3 (win for Sony)... after awhile of course the cost will go down and blu-ray players will start to cost less than the PS3.

I remember a number of people I know bought a PS2 because it also played DVDs - and this was at a time when DVD players were not cheap, and the lower end ones were certainly not good. Probably something similar will happen.

I'm not sure when the other format (HD-DVD?) comes out, but I suspect the competition with that may play into things a bit (although at this stage I woudl be surprised if the Sony backed option did not come up trumps).

[identity profile] chuma.livejournal.com 2006-02-22 01:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Who cares? Nintendo Revolution ++

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