Date: 2017-08-20 11:27 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redbird
I've known about the lead glass thing for a very long time; apparently it's another of those things that I incorrectly thought everyone knew. On the other hand, I may have picked that up from a discussion of litharge: at least these days we don't deliberately add lead sugar to our wine. (My parents had some nice lead crystal flower vases, but no decanters.)

Date: 2017-08-20 01:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dewline
4. That's not a little bit disturbing.

5. Not sure that I qualify as autistic, but some of these complaints about clothing issues are ones that I empathize with.

8. Yikes.

Date: 2017-08-20 07:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cyprinella
Huh. I didn't know that about lead glass. My husband has a decanter he stores whiskey in and I have no idea how to tell if it's lead glass.

Date: 2017-08-20 08:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cyprinella
Youtube says to whack it with a spoon and see if it sounds like a thunk or a bell and they all solidly thunked. I guess we're fine.

Date: 2017-08-20 07:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] skington
Is Liberal person getting confused about people venting about neoliberalism? Basically the 1990s Clinton-Blair Third Way managerial "deliver incremental change via market-based competence"?

Date: 2017-08-20 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] theandrewhickey
No, I'm not. As you can see from, for example, the Laurie Penny piece I linked to in that piece that was headlined "to my liberal friends"
Or these tweets:

"That's 'cos liberals are useless at fighting fascism, but Corbyn's not a liberal, & his brand of politics won us back voters we lost to UKIP"
https://twitter.com/_GayLabourLefty/status/899281057228496896

"In short the liberal, rightwing of the Labour Party, nostalgic for neoliberalism"
https://twitter.com/sz_duras/status/899288204809048064

Imperialism is evil. Prisons are evil. Policing is violence. Austerity is murder. sorry it stings to hear your flaws, liberals. fuck off."
https://twitter.com/umbyrella/status/898349379265773569

"Middle Class White Liberals blanket condemn "violence" because ultraviolent state-sanctioned racism and economic austerity don't affect them"
https://twitter.com/leducviolet/status/898063121608093696

And so on. There's *tons* of this stuff, mostly influenced by USian usage where "liberal" has a rather different meaning to British usage, and also not helped by the Lib Dems' positioning in the media as centrist. To *LARGE* swathes of the left, "liberaal", "neoliberal", "centrist", "moderate", and "Blairite" are all synonyms.

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